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America’s Armageddonites
Jon Basil Utley | October 10, 2007
Editor: John Feffer
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Utopian fantasies have long transfixed the human race. Yet today a much rarer fantasy has become popular in the United States. Millions of Americans, the richest people in history, have a death wish. They are the new “Armageddonites,” fundamentalist evangelicals who have moved from forecasting Armageddon to actually trying to bring it about.
Most journalists find it difficult to take seriously that tens of millions of Americans, filled with fantasies of revenge and empowerment, long to leave a world they despise. These Armageddonites believe that they alone will get a quick, free pass when they are “raptured” to paradise, no good deeds necessary, not even a day of judgment. Ironically, they share this utopian fantasy with a group that they often castigate, namely fundamentalist Muslims who believe that dying in battle also means direct access to Heaven. For the Armageddonites, however, there are no waiting virgins, but they do agree with Muslims that there will be “no booze, no bars,” in the words of a popular Gaither Singers song.
These end-timers have great influence over the U.S. government’s foreign policy. They are thick with the Republican leadership. At a recent conference in Washington, congressional leader Roy Blunt, for example, has said that their work is "part of God's plan." At the same meeting, where speakers promoted attacking Iran, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay glorified “end times.” Indeed the Bush administration often consults with them on Mideast policies. The organizer of the conference, Rev. John Hagee, is often welcomed at the White House, although his ratings are among the lowest on integrity and transparency by Ministry Watch, which rates religious broadcasters. He raises millions of dollars from his campaign supporting Israeli settlements on the West Bank, including much for himself. Erstwhile presidential candidate Gary Bauer is on his Board of Directors. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson also both expressed strong end-times beliefs.
American fundamentalists strongly supported the decision to invade Iraq in 2003. They consistently support Israel’s hard-line policies. And they are beating the drums for war against Iran. Thanks to these end-timers, American foreign policy has turned much of the world against us, including most Muslims, nearly a quarter of the human race.
The Beginning of End Times
The evangelical movement originally was not so “end times” focused. Rather, it was concerned with the “moral” decline inside America. The Armageddon theory started with the writings of a Scottish preacher, John Nelson Darby (1800-1882). His ideas then spread to America with publication in 1917 of the Scofield Reference Bible, foretelling that the return of the Jews to Palestine would bring about the end times. The best-selling book of the 1970s, The Late, Great Planet Earth, further spread this message. The movement did not make a conscious effort to affect foreign policy until Jerry Falwell went to Jerusalem and the Left Behind books became best sellers.
Conservative Christian writer Gary North estimates the number of Armageddonites at about 20 million. Many of them have an ecstatic belief in the cleansing power of apocalyptic violence. They are among the more than 30% of Americans who believe that the world is soon coming to an end. Armageddonites may be a minority of the evangelicals, but they have vocal leaders and control 2,000 mostly fundamentalist religious radio stations.
Although little focused on in America, Armageddonites attract the attention of Muslims abroad. In 2004, for instance, I attended Qatar’s Fifth Conference on Democracy with Muslim leaders from all over the Arabian Gulf. There, the uncle of Jordan’s king devoted his whole speech to warning of the Armageddonites’ power over American foreign policy.
Armageddonite Foreign Policy
The beliefs of the Armageddon Lobby, also known as Dispensationalists, come from the Book of Revelations, which Martin Luther relegated it to an appendix when he translated the Bible because its image of Christ was so contrary to the rest of the Bible. The Armageddonites worship a vengeful, killer-torturer Christ. They also frequently quote a biblical passage that God favors those who favor the Jews. But they only praise Jews who make war, not those who are peacemakers. For example, they vigorously opposed Israel’s murdered premier Yitzhak Rabin, who promoted the Oslo Peace Accords.
Based on this Biblical interpretation, the Armageddonites vehemently argue that America must protect Israel and encourage its settlements on the West Bank in order to help God fulfill His plans. The return of Jews to Palestine is central to the prophetic vision of the Armageddonites, who see it as a critical step toward the final battle, Armageddon, and the victory of the righteous over Satan’s minions. There are a couple internal inconsistencies with this prophecy, such as the presence of Christians already living in the Holy Land and the role of Jews in the final dispensation. In the first case, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and other Religious Right leaders tried to pretend that Christians already in the Holy Land simply didn’t exist. As for Jews, they needed to become “born again” Christians to avoid God’s wrath (or, according to some Armageddonites, a separate Jewish covenant with God will gain them a separate Paradise).
Everyone else -- Buddhists, Muslims (of course), Hindus, atheists, and so on – are then slated to die in the Tribulation that comes with Armageddon. As described in the bestselling Left Behind series, this time of human misery ends with Christ then ruling a paradise on earth for a thousand years.
Armageddonites know little about the outside world, which they think of as threatening and awash with Satanic temptations. They are big supporters of Bush’s “go it alone” foreign policies. For example, they love John Bolton. They were prime supporters for attacking Iraq. And, with very few exceptions, they were noticeably quiet about, if not supportive, of torturing prisoners of war (only with a new leadership did the National Association of Evangelicals finally condemn torture in May, 2007). Their support of the Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani shows that they consider aggressively prosecuting Mideast war (to help speed up the apocalypse) more important than the domestic programs of these socially liberal politicians.
On other foreign policy issues, they are violently against the pending Law of the Seas Treaty, indeed any treaty which possibly circumscribes U.S. power to go it alone. They want illegal immigrants expelled and oppose more immigration. They fear China’s growth. They despise Europeans for not being more warlike. The UN figures prominently in their fears, and the Left Behind books present its Secretary General as the Antichrist. Domestically, they strongly support the USA PATRIOT Act and all of President Bush’s actions, legal or illegal.
Armageddonites and Fascism
Author and former New York Times reporter Christopher Hedges argues that worldview and reasoning of the Armageddonites tend toward fascism. In his book American Fascists, Hedges focuses on their obedience to leadership, their feelings of humiliation and victimhood, alienation, their support for authoritarian government, and their disinterestedness in constitutional limits on government power. Theirs was originally a defensive movement against the liberal democratic society, particularly abortion, school desegregation, and now globalization, which they saw as undermining their communities and families, their values, and livelihood. Their fundamentalism is very fulfilling and, Hedges writes, “they are terrified of losing this new, mystical world of signs, wonders and moral certitude, of returning to the old world of despair.”
Hedges, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, also shows that fundamentalists are quite selective. They don’t take the Bible literally when it comes to justifying slavery or that children who curse a parent are to be executed. The movement is also very masculine, giving poor men a path to re-establish their authority in what they perceive as an overly feminized culture. Images of Jesus often show Him with thick muscles, clutching a sword. Christian men are portrayed as powerful warriors.
The overwhelming power and warmongering of the Armageddonites has inspired some resistance from other fundamentalists, but they are a minority. Theologian Richard Fenn writes, “Silent complicity (by mainline churches) with apocalyptic rhetoric soon becomes collusion with plans for religiously inspired genocide.” Their death-wishing “religion” is actually anti-Christian and should be challenged openly by traditional Christians.
The next election will likely loosen their grip on the White House. However, their growing ties to the military industrial complex will remain. Exposure of their war wanting as a major threat to America and the world may well become as destructive for them as was the famous Scopes trial in the 1920s. But that will only happen if Americans become as concerned as foreign observers about the influence of the Armageddonites.
Jon Basil Utley is associate publisher of The American Conservative. He was a foreign correspondent in South America for the Journal of Commerce and Knight Ridder newspapers and former associate editor of The Times of the Americas. He was for 17 years a contract commentator on third world issues for Voice of America. He is a writer and advisor for Antiwar.com, a chairman of ConservativesForPeace.com, and a contributor to Foreign Policy In Focus. For more articles in the Religion and Foreign Policy strategic focus, visit http://www.fpif.org/fpifinfo/4590.
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W. Davis |
Date: Oct 29, 2007 |
| Well written article. First, I'd like to say I am a Bible Believing Christian, however I do not take the dispensationalist approach when it comes to escatology or event surrounding the endtimes. I must admit we "Christians" have faulted and stumbled in many areas within the geo political arena including the war in iraq, israels hostilties towards the palestinians, civil liberties and now the sounding of war drums towards Iran. Those so called Christian representatives ie: Pat Robertson, Hagee etc. do not speak for all Christians or Christianity in particular, but is a subset within the christian culture who as of now been a supportive unit behind this administration. |
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michael elliott |
Date: Oct 29, 2007 |
| A point of interest that i have observed....The 60's era liberalism that these Armsgeddonists are "reacting" to was "created by a group of Zionist Jews..names of note would be Bruce, Ginsberg, Toklas, Bib Dylan, Friedman, and of course Abe Hoffman just to name a few..They KNEW there would be a Social Pendalum Swing by the Conservative Bible Belt Christians as a result of the excesses of the "beat generation" and "peace love dove" generation, of which i am one of. That "swing" set up the introduction of Ronald Reagan and his brand of fundamentalism and conservatism (with BUSH SR> doing the manipulations in the background along with a whole "slew" of Zionist Jew advisors, legal analyists, think tanks, Tec and of course TOTAL CONTROL OF THE MEDIA..which they then manipulated into the current Zenophobe Fundamentalism,where ANYTHING is justified to keep us safe from "islamofsacism", or any other arranged "-----facism" ...THE GOAL: JEWISH ZIONIST FACISM RULING THE WORLD!!! This plan was put into place generations ago by the likes of Rothschild, Schiff, Warburg, Strauss, Hertzl, Baruch, House, Kissinger and on and on and on and on..... |
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Shadow Dancer |
Date: Oct 29, 2007 |
| Perhaps those people of your Nation of which you speak are actually servering the Beast & the False Prophet(s) of politics & religion? Perhaps they worship the Beast & the Image of the Beast.
In conversations on the Net some of said these wars will force Jesus to come back. I replied, Isn't that what Judas thought that by taking a worldly action he would force Jesus's hand to a worldly political action?
The Book of Revelation lists many Beast Kingdoms/Nations. Perhaps your Nation is just another one, or perhaps even Mystery Babylon who could be the key componet of the Globalist system of the Beast?
In the book called the Bible God states they will be killing thinking they are doing him a favor. In the same book there are writings about the False Apostacy, those who will have a form of Godliness, looks to be Godliness but it isn't Godliness at all.
God has also said he will send strong delusion to them so they will believe a lie and all will be damned. Just as Jesus said many will come to him saying they taught in his name, healed in his name, and prophcied in his name. He will tell them to depart from him as they never knew him.
Jesus taught his Father's Spiritual Kingdom, not Religion. Man opted for Religion & Politics that isn't anything other than Pharisee Religion & politics. |
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Don Robertson |
Date: Oct 29, 2007 |
| I read with horrified dismay how in the 21st Century there are still those who think this way.
And, even more worrisome for me, I find we should all also recognize, but most of us apparently cannot, that literally everyone, including the authors here, still think this way.
It is possible to destroy the earth upon which humanity depends. This statement is categorically true.
The death wish of America's Armageddonites is however, no different from the death wish of those who believe in this notion that there is some empirical messiah going to come along and bail the world out of the full blown empirical mess created by our culture's belief that within science there is somewhere truth.
There is no absolute truth in science. Science is all approximations, a simple chipping away at a model of reality but, with a process, empirical reason, that is never going to be capable of encompassing the importance of the whole of reality. Science is not even capable of defining the smallest part of reality.
And, it is the whole of reality that humanity relies upon for its sustenance and survival.
When one measures knowledge sets, our science we hold in such high truth-esteem, turns out to be no more than a sophisticated and far more deadly sort of withcraft.
Currently in our world today some (as here) are concerned with politicians who have used the idiosyncratic stereotype of the American Armageddonite character of our culture to bolster their party's political support amongst the throngs the super-religious who watch TV envangicalists and attend their carnival shows around the country.
But those who are most offended by this quirky archiac super-religion phenomenon in our culture are also corny Star Trek watching science worshippers. And they too, are no less dangerous to the world of our humanity. Science worshippers believe science will provide for the world a new scientific messiah that will either fix all our problems or deliver us all to another planet elsewhere in the cosmos. This is simply far too fantastic to be credible.
All our problems today generally either come from science or religion.
And these two, science and religion are so much like Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee, we should all take a pause to consider our apparent incontrovertable human fallibility for our failure to distinguish between the two, or even to recognize the remarkable similarity of science aand religion.
The moral imperative of life is to live a life that detracts not at all from the lives available to those who will follow us into this world. That is the human truth. The moral imperative is also categorically true. You can test it yourself.
You cannot willingly cross over the line drawn by the moral imperative and be a moral human being.
Just as empirical truth is to superstition, so too is Categorical Knowledge to empirical knowledge.
Categorical Knowledge is that knowledge that is true in every instance without any exception.
Categorical Knowledge trumps both religiosity and scientific promiscuity every time.
So, whenever someone (as the author) finds fault with America's Armageddonites, please take a deep breath. And consider. Perhaps it is not just the American Armageddonites but also, the scientists of this world who need to be looked at more closely for the net result of what they preach.
Don Robertson, The American Philosopher |
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Roxan Tiscareno |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| I agree with many of your points and I've never supported the End Times (and I don't even go with any kind of religion), but I certainly opposed to illegal immigration. If there is this "war on Terror", the borders shouldn't be left wide open.
Furthermore, they cost a lot of money (including free births)...many here who are legal citizens DO NOT medical care of any sort (including me).
Then they get WIC, etc benefits to these "automatic citizens", then free school and then on to the DREAM Act.....but did anybody pay attention to those "LA GRAN MARCHAS"? They declared such great love/loyalty to Mexico and they DESPISE AMERICANS.
Bone up on AZTLAN/ANAHUAC, La Raza (means the Race)-even though they scream racist at anybody who opposes illegal aliens. Also check out MEChA-their motto (For the Race everything, for those outside the Race, nothing)....-gee what do you suppose they mean by that? So, I have to state: The illegal aliens have their own agenda and it IS NOT peaceful. |
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Clifford |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| If there is a war with Iran and islam and as long as Islam threatens, Americans and others will embrace and spread Biblical Christianity. PS and it is the Book of Revelation NOT Revelations. And those of us who are Biblical Christians do not follow Martin Luther we follow God and his word called the Bible. |
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Marlene-M |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| Re: America’s Armageddonites
THANK YOU for writing this. I have seen this for years now and have warned everyone I know. I've said, for a very long time now, that this particular brand of "Christianity," believers of whom claim to "love Jews," truly only love Israeli real estate.
Ann Coulter outlandish statement that Jews need to be "perfected" may have been seen by some as just another of Ann Coulter's endless supply of hateful statements; however, SHE MEANT IT, and people need to realize this.
One other thing that I have noticed out here in Colorado, having only moved out here two years ago from southeastern Pennsylvania: These nut jobs infiltrate government at EVERY level, especially the local level, right down to foster care where they can force their religion down the throats of unsuspecting, innocent children.
I wrote to my congresswoman several months ago regarding healthcare (which I realized was a waste of time). To this day, I never received the courtesy of a response or even acknowledgment that my email was received by her. She is obviously too busy trying to force her religion down the throats of every visitor to the Capitol Visitor Center in Washington and doesn't have the time to represent the people in her district. She'd better start praying that she doesn't lose her job the next time her name is on the ballot.
Again, thanks for writing this, and please keep investigating these nut jobs. Sunlight is the very best disinfectant. |
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Joe Schembrie |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| There really is not that strong a logical connection between Armageddonist Theology and Bush foreign policy. For example, you mention Armageddonist evangelicals despise the Europeans for not being violent enough. But according to their theology, the European Union is the 'Revived Roman Empire' that is to be ruled by the Anti-Christ. Logically, they should want the European Union to remain passive.
Another disparity between theology and reality is where the Book of Revelation condemns the 'king of Babylon,' who has the power to call fire down from the sky. Now, who is the current absolute ruler of Babylon, and what is his most feared power? Logically, then, Armageddonites should be shying away from Bush himself as an emulator of the anti-christ (as if his membership in the paganistic Skull & Bones wasn't reason enough!).
Eschatology -- End Time Theology -- also sees the Jews as persecutors of Christians to the very end. Logically, then, Christians should not be supporting the Jewish state as they do.
So why do they? And why do evangelicals ignore all the other numerous contradictions between their theology and Bushian foreign policy?
Basically for the same reason that they're evangelical christians in the first place, which is that they're authoritarian personality types. They'll follow anyone in authority, so long as he tells them they're great. In Nazi Germany, the evangelical christians were almost unanimous for Hitler, who certainly wasn't a Darbyist Armageddonite but nonetheless knew enough of his audience to tap into their End Times hysteria with his references to a Thousand Year Reich being a blatant plagiarism from the Millennial Reign of Christ described in the Book of Revelation.
If evangelicals ever bothered to closely compare scripture with political policy, they would realize soon enough that the words don't match what Hitler did then any more than they match what the neocons are doing today. But evangelical christianity isn't about logical coherency, it's about authoritarianism. What the authoritarian personality type wishes most of all is to be incorporated into some rigid hierarchy where someone bosses him around and he in turn is able to boss around others. "You're our leader? Good enough, let's go kick some ass!"
The lack of intellectual precision in the evangelical movement is obvious when we consider that Jesus admonished his followers to turn the other cheek while in practice his modern-day followers see nothing wrong with torturing terror suspects who later prove to be innocent.
The key to understanding all these logical contradictions between theology and behavior is in that evangelicals are not motivated by 'strict interpretation of the Word' as they claim, but by an inner authoritarian impulse. In the metaphor of Jesus, they are sheep looking for a shepherd. And they will follow that shepherd even if he leads them to slaughter.
And it is the nature of shepherds to do exactly that.
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tom collins |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| fantastic article, i used to suspect that a lot of the subconcious desire for apocalypse by this group of sad losers is fuelled by adolescent sci-fi fantasies about repopulating a planet from thier own seed; i now realise the truth maybe even more psychopathic and self-hating by them wishing to destroy humanity altogether. I think god would be more inclined to save the wretched sinners who might provide a bit of a laugh in the afterlife as opposed to the members of this dreary and dumb death cult. |
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Jim |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| What would Jesus do? Ask yourself that! |
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Dave |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| The christianity you reference in the article I call babylonian christianity. Babylonian or "so called" christianity is eyeball deep in the affairs of this world. Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this world. The bible says that in the last days the way of truth will be brought into disrepute, look around-mission accomplished. |
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Adam Ghaznavi |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
The favorite of those awaiting the Great Upside Down Shower, the Scofield Reference Bible, was published 1917 - same year as the (Britsh) Balfour Declaration (calling for the establishment of the state of Israel...
...ever get the feeling you've been had? |
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Mark |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| The entire rapture lust is more the wish to be free from the responsibility of what we have done to each other and to the earth since the days of Jesus. The sad irony is that there will be no "rapture" as these people believe though if they have their way they could provoke Armageddon. It is quite clear that Jesus came to teach us to be like him, a Child of God walking a human path. He isn't coming to save the "faithful", he expects us to join Him as we realize our own Christ Self. |
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Joyce |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| All I can say is, no wonder Atheism is growing. The bibles were written by man. If there truly was a God, wouldn't God be of love and kindness. God never would have invented mankind like what we see. Evil, murdering, power hungry, hating humans. If you read the old testament, God was just as vengeful and hating. So, all these fools that think they will join God in heaven...deserve to go.
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George |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| In my studies the present/coming siuation is not the end of the world, but paralells the creation days of 1 yr.=1,000 yrs. So, there has been 4,000 yrs. from Adam to Jesus Christ and 2,000 yrs. from Jesus to the present= 6,000 yrs. Breifly, this can be the beginning of the 7th millenium with peace on this planet after-ARMAGEDDON see Luke 21 where Jerusalem being compassed by armies. At that time "look up for your redemption draws nigh". Occupied Palestine is THE PROBLEM. I.E. SODOM & GAMORRAH "where our lord was crucified" JERUSALEM occupied by the anti-christ Jews creats the time frame where the Revelation explains the 1,000 year reign when "THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR GOD AND HIS CHRIST. Let's hope it's not the end of the world, but the beginning of the 7th Millenium of peace. |
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Ted Twietmeyer |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| To all this I simply say - what would Jesus do if He was walking around Israel today (which he might be for all we know) and looking at the murders that country commits against its neighbors? Would he congratulate Israel or curse it? No one applies common sense to anything, anymore. They watch the nightly news or CNN and think that if they don't see it on TV, then it must not be true. That's why almost no one in the public even knows Ron Paul's name. Just ask any of your relatives if they have heard of him, and don't be surprised at what you hear... |
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Mike |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| Many of our leaders are Evangelical Christains. Our own president says he "talks to god". So it seems these "fundies" are the ones in power. So if they want armageddon, they'll get armageddon. But before you go after science, consider that science is logical. Science is based on reason. Science analyzes results and formulates consequences. Thats not to say that it shouldn't be used without code of ethics and morals. But this type of "doomsday" oriented religion is not based on reason. It defies ethics and morals and does not consider the consequences (Push the button and let our god sort them out).
We are not at the mercy of some savior or messiah. We are at the mercy of ourselves! "We must become the change that we want to see in the world." - Mahatma Ghandi
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Annette57 |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| Michael Elliot: "Bib Dylan" (assuming you meant Bob Dylan) and Allen Ginsburg never espoused Zionism, as you say they did. I would welcome being corrected on this, but if you ever listen to "Time out of Mind" (a Dylan CD), you'll note that he's seeing world politics on a much more educated level, per "Tweedledum and Tweedledee". P.S. Religious reasoning always masks the real motive: ECONOMIC!! Kim Jon Song (N. Korea's leader who already has starved millions to death) is also a dangerous threat to the world, yet N. Korea has no oil, so why should the U.S. remove that Dictator?? |
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Cal Bright |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
| Great Article! Those guys are delusional and apostate Christians! Christ is about changing your character from the old man to the new after the image of Christ, putting to death the flesh (our beast or animal nature) in order for the new man to take over which is spirit. Those poor fools you're discussing have followed another Jesus and another gospel (2 Cor. 11:3-4) that tickled their ears. They are sowing the wind and will reap the whirlwind. Consider Jesus' parables of reaping and sowing. If you sow death so shall you reap death. These poor people are deceived and under a powerful delusion. Thanks for pointing this out to them. I hope they will read your article with eyes to see and ears to hear. Christ is restoring the church and doing away with denominations. Check out Unleavened Bread Ministries. I have a button on my world news page, just Google Kosmos Ltd. then click breaking news. You may even be able to Google UBM or David Eells. I really appreciate you speaking truth to these people who are helping to wreck our planet based on a totally false belief system. I can't believe they have ever read the Bible all the way through, let alone the many times you need to do it to get it. Quite frankly the more you read it the more you get it. You have to eat the whole lamb! (Word) or no Passover! Go back and read it Armageddonites! You cannot move Jesus to return by serving evil. However, I suspected your going to get a good asswhooping! Keep up the good work Jon and God Bless! Cal editor@kosmosltd.net & www.kosmosltd.net |
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Micah |
Date: Oct 30, 2007 |
Hello out there!
Is there anyone out there who understands that the Jews of today are are in no way connected to the original Hebrew race. They are frauds and indeed the synagogue of satan as simply told to any Christian with an ounce of sense who can read.
It is absolutely amazing that there are many Christian organizations telling the world and exposing these people and yet no one seems to get it. |
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ty Hungerford |
Date: Oct 31, 2007 |
| For the spirit filled followers of Jesus this period in time is just a normal repercussion of the church (body of Christ) out of tune with the teachings of Jesus. The fault lies with the modern day preachers who protect their tax free status and are up to their necks in bankers usury. The Church is failing the Christian body of Christ as it is preaching platitudes and fears the State. |
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John |
Date: Oct 31, 2007 |
| If god is omniscient and omnipotent then why does he need any help from his created toys? |
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James Arthur |
Date: Oct 31, 2007 |
| While the article is compelling, it is superficial; lacking in any true understanding of scripture. Armegeddon does not take place until after the great resurrection when all people are taught the truth. During that 100 year period of time, Satan, the arch antagonist will muster the rebellious to attack the family of Yahweh in a final futal attempt to reestablish the old failed order. The armies will kill themselves in their confused state demonstrating their inability to learn from the previous nuclear devastation they caused that ended our present age. Read "Babylon is Falling!" and "Wee Blind Mice - The things they didn't tell us in church!" for insight into the great deception brought through Christianity. All of the comments posted are examples of the misinformation that abounds in modern theology. Does no one read, for heavens sake. |
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Mike |
Date: Nov 01, 2007 |
| Run, Run from those evil Christians! Is Mr. Utley some kind of crazed conspiracy theorist? Does he fail to notice the blatant Jewish influence in the Whitehouse? Does he not realize the left behind series are fictional? I think he is scared of Christians! I guess we all fear the unknown and frankly, Mr. Utley does not know much about Christianity. Newsflash: Christians do not follow the Old Testament covenant because they believe Jesus represents the fulfillment of the law. Most Christians like most Americans could care less about politics. It's very easy to pick and choose religious leaders and paint them as representative of Christians in general. In reality, secular republican strategists have hijacked weak minded Christians. Newsflash: End time prophecy exists throughout the Bible, not just in Revelation. Shameless Anti-Christian Propaganda! |
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Ken |
Date: Nov 01, 2007 |
These "Evangelical Christian Leaders" are working for the NWO. Read these articles and deside for yourself.
http://www.rense.com/general33/nwoo.htm
http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm
http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy2.htm
http://www.rense.com/general21/unholy3.htm
http://www.rense.com/general21/unholy4.htm |
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| Name: |
Brent |
Date: Nov 01, 2007 |
| Jesus said:
"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" and,
"Drop your swords; for those who live by the sword will die by the sword" and,
"The man without sin cast the first stone" and,
"I did not come to judge this world, but to save it"
How many enemies did Jesus kill? How many soldiers did Jesus call to battle? How many stones did Jesus throw?
People who go "against Christ", including those who call themselves "Christians" are indeed the ANTICHRIST. No if's, and's or but's about it.
Ghandi was a better follower of Jesus Christ than most Christians I know. Ghandi fearlessly dropped his weapons...and then defeated the British! The Way of Jesus proved right!
Why do Christians need guns and bombs when there exist the most powerful weapons provided by Jesus Christ: Love, Forgiveness, Compassion, Prayer and Faith? They of little faith.
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Sonymaster |
Date: Nov 01, 2007 |
| A poorly conceived article with little merit. Most moderate, God-fearing Americans want nothing more than to be left alone. They don't really care about the rest of the world, and that's the way it should be. Adding this kind of hysteria to the Iraq war mess will solve nothing, and will only encourage the fringe elements that prey upon the weak. Blaming the Jews for any of these problems is completely ridiculous and smacks of a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory. |
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Makan Skata |
Date: Nov 02, 2007 |
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful".
From the Roman orator SENECA... |
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T.Ivovic |
Date: Nov 03, 2007 |
| If there is no god, there is no Satan. If there were either one, we would not be discussing it. Religions are ideal for war times. Armageddon: Christians have been waiting for 2000 years, just like the Jews were waiting for Messiah. It's like waiting for Godot. Another 5000 years - of course, we will never know. But I'll bet you someone will still be waiting.
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